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taurusndixie
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    12/05/08 at 10:15 AM#1
I had a private conversation recently with a friend who just happens to be SCV.  The credibility of this friend is beyond questioning !
I don't think it would be ( at the moment ) a good idea to get into more detail about where, who and how this info was obtained.  But it was straight from the horses mouth ! There is a bill in the works, and when finally passed will require police depts. to confiscate all ammo from citizens in their jurisdictions.
Some SC police Depts, it was said may resist this idea.

This brings to mind that the 20,000 military police command being put together may be for such purposes.

Has anyone else heard of this SC law that is being worked on ?
I am going to write my SC congressman today.  Maybe I will get in touch with the NRA and see if they've heard.


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    12/05/08 at 10:34 AM#2
Oh dear, this is serious and being kept quiet. I remember this being brought to the Alabama house and NOTHING was said about distroying all ammo that is not coded. Doing a quick search I found the following...

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/2nd-amendment-politics/5288-america-disarmed-ammo-confiscation.html

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The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana)
requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacturer in a data
base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what
calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the
ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.
(Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every
round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona,
California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland,
Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation
and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
Legislation



http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

Read this bills, the above statement is correct...
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    12/05/08 at 10:42 AM#3
Again we come to the dilemma of whether they will actually come to your house and attempt to confiscate your ammunition.

How will they know what you have?  How would they enforce such laws?  What about citizens crossing state lines to hunt or competition shoot?

This legislation is absurd, to say the very least.

I would also call it larceny against the people, too.  They are trying to tell you what you can and cannot own and what you must do with your own property.  It undermines the Constitution and the rights of the people.

It will not stand.

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    12/05/08 at 11:22 AM#4
"Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011."

Fat chance.  Same chance as taking our weapions.  Travis:  I've seen this recently.  Was it on WarRifles?  I don't want to post it, if it already was so.
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    12/05/08 at 11:27 AM#5
I think it's a safe bet that people know.  We'll just keep the fire kindled under it so they don't forget that this is the government that wants to TAKE AWAY our rights, not protect them.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

All roads lead to 1861.

Etc, etc, etc.

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    12/05/08 at 11:29 AM#6
Everyone I know back home is storing up weapons and ammo. People are scared of the government - and rightly so. It is evil and oppressive. I don't think they know what they're going to have on their hands if they try to enforce obviously immoral and unconstitutional 'laws' such as this this.
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    12/05/08 at 11:33 AM#7
They may not get "open" war, but a much more subversive and guerrilla form the likes they have only seen in FOREIGN lands where those people have tried to protect and enforce their own sovereignty.

Some day soon we may be "foreigners" in our own lands, protecting our rights from the government that wants to play god (little "g") with our lives.

They will meet with very unpleasant circumstances, to say the very least.

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    12/05/08 at 11:35 AM#8
PP:

This is widespread. It has been mentioned more than once on a site that has 5,000 active users, of whom many are military, and some say they are worried they may have to make major decisions about their profession, if what we fear comes to pass.

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    12/05/08 at 12:05 PM#9
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... and some say they are worried they may have to make major decisions about their profession...
Which leads me to two (2) conclusions:

1) It's coming.
2) Not every man takes the oath of service lightly:

To defend the CONSTITUTION against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Well, the government has proven that it is indeed an enemy of the Constitution.  Many servicemen and women are discovering that there is an inherent conflict of interest in soldiering under oath to a government that makes Constitutional usurpation part of its policy and agenda.
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    12/05/08 at 12:11 PM#10

Indeed. If you love the Constitution you have to hate Washington, DC. They are polar opposites. Everything that was good and decent and noble about what Washington, Jefferson, Adams and the rest built was long ago destroyed.

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    12/05/08 at 12:49 PM#11
It is going to be hard to resist, unless you are willing to die alone and in your front yard. When the crack down comes,Communications except CB's will cut us off from each other. Then Govn't trackers will hunt down any CB signals.  TV and radio news will be muted or shut down during the crack down.
Without communications there can be no resistant force of any numbers.
We will be isolated and cut down one by one.

Most of the population will surrender at the first signs of hunger or threats of swat teams destroying their homes and families.  Other effective methods is taking one's property and forcing families out of their homes.

Storing food won't work for long.  To force compliance to the NWO homes will be raided and all food resources will be taken, probably under the guise of redistribution for the good of all.

From this point in time, I find it hard to see how the coming collapse will benifit the CSA, except to prove we were right all along about the Feds.
I have always dreamed of a free South, but, there is not enough of us to take the whole South back. Diversity has seen to this.

It has been suggested that like minded people start moving into a central location ( safety in numbers )  Feds would love that, then they would not have to work as hard to find us.  But this does have some merit.  Enough of us in one spot could build and expand outward our message and resistance.
It would provide an area and hope for people who may come and join us. 
Then, how many of us would actually leave their own states where their ancestors fought for Southern Independence.  If such a move became an actuallity, do we head for the midwest, or the most conservative state we could find..would we need a seaport for any future ?

Sorry about the rambling, I know not what the future brings, but know people need to form some kind of network NOW, plans need to be made NOW.

Once they take our bullets, then ALL other admendments to the Constitution is meaningless.
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    12/05/08 at 12:57 PM#12

Probably we will be overwhelmed as you say in their first wave. Same as in the Feds invasion of Iraq. But once they've been patrolling our cities and making a nuisense of themselves and angered the local populations (as they inevitably will) the real conflict will begin... slowly at first and then escilating. Ultimately, their regime will perish trying to control the entire world and the US itself at the same time. I don't think they'll survive the next 30 years. History is against them - as well as are all freedom-loving people.

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    12/05/08 at 01:50 PM#13
Any oath "to defend the Constitution" might as well read "to defend the Emerald City of Oz" - a fictional place.

The Constitution is, for all intents and purposes, dead, deceased, null, void and extinct. In the next few days we will see if even the pretense of its existence remains when the High Court determines whether or not to take the Berg case. If they, like the priest and the Levite in the parable of the Good Samaritan "pass by on the other side", then there can be no question that no "government of laws" exists in this nation and we have become a "government of men".

That being the case, you can be sure that they will do whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it and you will have absolutely no recourse. The only question will be whether they will try to do it peacefully - or show the full extent of their power and do it violently.

The hour has almost come.....

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    12/05/08 at 02:03 PM#14

Too true, Val. The Constitution was murdered in 1861. It has never risen again. Constitutions and unions imply a voluntary nature - which was destroyed by Lincoln and by many following would-be Abes. If SC can't opt out, then it's not a union - it's an empire.

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    12/05/08 at 02:28 PM#15
Well,
 
Been saying this for years..
 
Get ready..gun up and soon.
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    12/05/08 at 04:11 PM#16
If I had any extra money I would be buying guns and ammo, but as it stands I'm going to have to fight them off with an 1853 Enfield.  
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    12/06/08 at 12:20 AM#17
I have to say that I'm not sure exactly how one would deal with a cut in communication exactly, though  I suppose the best you could do would be to immediately head for the hills rather than wait around for them to come to you.

I suppose that a lot of what would happened would depend on how much of the military and national guard resisted or went along with such a thing.

though as far as the cities go, I say let them rot.  If the countryside is held, you could starve the cities into submission.

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    12/06/08 at 12:29 PM#18
You can bet that not only will they know how many and of what caliber ammo you buy but will also LIMIT that amount after July 30th.

Gun store: Yessir, can I help you?

You: I would like to buy a box of (insert).

Gun store: May I see you ammo certification card please? Oh, sorry Mr. (insert), the scanner says you're past your limit. Try again in six months and have a nice day.
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    12/06/08 at 01:04 PM#19
"Gun store: May I see you ammo certification card please? Oh, sorry Mr. (insert), the scanner says you're past your limit. Try again in six months and have a nice day."

That's good!  But, I'm sure you  realize that these bills haven't passed, and they aren't in every state, like mine of NC, and I believe that if some of these pass, then the below will be stricken from most, if not all.  Anyway, good luck on getting anyone to destroy their stock, and some of these stocks are 10 to 20K rounds.

"Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011."

PS:  Just saw this.

http://www.glockworld.com/category/1614.aspx?NID=265

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    12/06/08 at 01:44 PM#20

I just got off the phone with my Mom. It was great talking to her. She's been through a lot lately. Mom is normally very conservative - in the non-radical sense. But you know, it's funny how these days when I talk to people who don't work for the government and tell them that the government is just a gang of thieves and criminals - I get almost no resistance now. lol Amazing how that is, isn't it? Even my Mom agreed that the US system was unfixble, needed to fall and should be replaced with something less intrusive. I think the government is making millions of anti-government patriots through its own actions. How long can they possibly hold things together if at least a third or more of the people think they are thieves, criminal and killers? Not too long, in my opinion.

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    12/06/08 at 02:10 PM#21
Travis has been having a running argument with someone on another site who is convinced that the system can be saved if all ban together, but I'm not convinced of this at all.
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    12/06/08 at 02:44 PM#22

Well if it depends on my cooperation to make it work, it'll never happen. I have no desire at all to see this system continue. I think it's immoral. But even if everyone were to work together, it couldn't be saved. The monetary system is unsustainable. The demographic situation is unsustainable within a single jurisdiction. The spending is unsustainable. It can not last even if I wanted it to - which I definitely don't.

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    12/06/08 at 06:31 PM#23
Never mind that!  This is Amerika and the empire will [must!] last for a thousand years.

It simply has to.  It's the greatest nation on earth and it would be far too disruptive to the rest of the nations of the world if it were to fail.  Far too disastrous.

Yep, Amerika is the bank that is too important to fail and must be saved at any cost.

Insanity.

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    12/06/08 at 07:49 PM#24
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    12/06/08 at 07:56 PM#25

Amen and Amen!!!

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    12/06/08 at 09:16 PM#26

I love the way the word 'REQUIREMENT"  is always used as if its a 'law' !  All aimed at intimidation !
Does no one realize that if this were to happen that this alone would nulify the Constitution COMPLETELY !?
STOP GIVING INTO THE ENEMY !  STOP SHOWING FEAR OF THEM - INSTEAD GIVE THEM SOME FEAR !
The Constitution belongs to us, not them, and WE are who have the say on it, not them !  WE are the boss, not them - so act like it and eveyone stop letting their planted FEAR get into us ! Let us put the fear into THEM !  That is the way our Founders set things up !
WE are NOT obligated to obey ANY  Federal rule or "law" - WE are the guardians of the Constitution and it is OUR DUTY to FORCE THEM to obey it, not he other way around where they force us under their fake 'laws' of their OWG !  You do realize that all these so-called "laws" are of the OWG, right ? We are being transitioned into it RIGHT NOW !  THAT is what all these troops and Un-Constitutional laws are all about ! IF we obey them, we are bascially saying the OWG is okay with us !  The Feds HAVE NO POWER OR LEGAL RIGHTS OR JURISTICTION OUTSIDE OF THE DC AREA !  Force ALL Feds OUT of your county and state !  And if the govenor gets in your way, get rid of him =arrest him as an enemy ! If the Sheriff's (who are suppose to stand with the people AGAINST the Feds - that is their duty) do not co-opoerate, fire them all and replace them immediately !  Time to lock and load and grow a backbone ! It is either that, or surrender to the OWG of the Federalists that they have secretly been a front for since 1861 !


 

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    12/07/08 at 01:52 AM#27
"Gun store: May I see you ammo certification card please? Oh, sorry Mr. (insert), the scanner says you're past your limit. Try again in six months and have a nice day." "

They already do this with Cold Medicine with just the swipe of your drivers license. It would not be hard to do this.

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    12/07/08 at 02:57 PM#28
A friend of the forum emailed me with the following information.  Thought the rest of the group might want to hear this.

FYI - This legislation (S. 1259) is NOT pending in SC.  It died without a single co-sponsor or a committee hearing when the legislative session ended in June 2008.  It could come back when the next session begins in January 2009, but for now it is dead.  I am keeping an eye out for it to resurface.
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    12/07/08 at 03:29 PM#29
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They already do this with Cold Medicine


Yes, I feel like a common criminal when I buy my Advil Sinus in the spring.
Ridiculous!
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    12/08/08 at 10:09 AM#30
I agree, it is going to be tough to win our independance, BUT, I'd rather fight,  and go down fighting than stand by like a mindless zombie, saying "yesssirrr, massa obama". I'll take what weapons I have and stand under the banner trusting GOD to keep me or to escort me across the river and bring me under the shade of the trees. Either way will be victory.We are the Sons of our Fathers who faced impossible odds and nearly won. We will find ways to overcome communication problems, ammo problems, and rations problems. Yes we must have places that we can rally together for support of one another. We must be quick, efficient and deadly serious. We must reeducate ourselves and our loved ones. We must NOT waiver.

 "I'd Rather fight another 'civil war' than set by without a whelp of resistance under this Regime." Patrick- October 2008 
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    12/08/08 at 12:56 PM#31
Hussein is a lying S.O.S.

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    12/08/08 at 01:22 PM#32
Folks, IMO the press has missed the point of all of this.
 
People are buying guns in record numbers not because they fear banning, Obama, etc.
 
They are buying because they see where this country is headed (bankruptcy, civil turmoil, starvation & riots).
 
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    12/08/08 at 01:36 PM#33

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They are buying because they see where this country is headed (bankruptcy, civil turmoil, starvation & riots).



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